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When trading is not for you, and getting help

Lesson 24 · about 10 min

This is the last lesson and it is the one most trading courses do not include, because it is bad for business. GetProfitable is a community, not a course seller, so it can say this plainly: trading is not for everyone, deciding it is not for you is a legitimate outcome of this course, and there is a line beyond which trading has stopped being trading and become something that needs a different kind of help.

The honest base rate

Studies of retail trader outcomes, across countries and markets, find the same shape: a large majority of active retail traders lose money over time, a small minority are consistently profitable, and the gap between the two is mostly explained by costs, overtrading and the behavioural patterns this course has covered. The exact proportions vary by study and market, and the figures quoted online are often exaggerated in both directions, but the direction is not in dispute. Most people who try this do not make money at it.

Evidence that it is working

After a year of graded trading with the rules in this course in place, you should have:

  • An A-trade expectancy over several blocks that is positive after costs.
  • An A-trade percentage that is high and stable.
  • A D/F count that is low and falling.
  • A track record that survives your losing streaks without rule breaks.
  • A life outside trading that is intact: sleep, relationships, finances, health.

If you have these, you are a trader, whatever the P&L was this month.

Evidence that it is not

Strategy evidence. A-trade expectancy that is negative or zero after costs over several blocks and several honest attempts to fix it. If your best execution does not make money, the problem is not psychology, and the honest options are a different strategy, a different market, or stopping.

Behavioural evidence. A D/F count that has not fallen over a year despite the rules in this course, or rules that keep being broken despite software enforcement and friction. Some people, for reasons that are not moral failings, cannot hold trading rules under pressure. That is a fact about fit, not character, and it is worth knowing early.

Life evidence. Trading that is costing sleep, relationships, health or money that was needed for something else. This is the most important category and the one traders discount most.

If the evidence is in the second list, the sunk-cost lesson from Module 1 applies in full. What you have spent on trading, in money and years, is not a reason to spend more. The question is only whether the next year has positive expected value, and the honest answer might be no.

Key idea: Deciding that trading is not for you is a legitimate outcome of this course, supported by the same evidence that would tell you it is. What you have already spent is not an argument for continuing.

Stopping well

Stopping trading is not a failure, and it can be done well.

  • Close the accounts. Not "leave it open in case." Closed.
  • Write the final review: what was learned, in process terms. Most people who stop trading take with them a much better understanding of risk, probability and their own decision-making than they had before, and that has value outside trading.
  • Keep the skills that transfer: sizing, expectancy thinking and grading decisions on process are useful in investing, business and ordinary life.
  • Tell people. The identity lesson applies here too: "I traded for two years and decided it wasn't for me" is a complete and respectable sentence.

Some people who stop come back later with more capital and a better plan. Many do not. Both are fine.

When it has become gambling

There is a line between trading that is going badly and trading that has become a gambling problem. The line is not the P&L; it is the relationship between the person and the activity. Signs that gambling counsellors and the clinical literature use, translated into trading terms:

  • Trading with money that was needed for rent, bills, debt payments or family.
  • Borrowing to fund accounts, or funding accounts with credit.
  • Hiding trading activity or losses from a partner or family.
  • Repeated attempts to stop or cut down that have failed.
  • Increasing size or frequency to get the same feeling.
  • Trading to escape a mood, or feeling restless and irritable when not trading.
  • Chasing losses as the primary reason for trading.
  • Trading through consequences: a lost job, a relationship ending, a health problem.

If several of these are true, this course cannot help, because these are not trading problems. They are the signs of a behavioural addiction, which is a recognised condition with effective treatment, and the correct next step is to talk to someone whose job is that.

Getting help

In most countries there is a free, confidential gambling helpline, usually available by phone and often by chat, staffed by people who are used to hearing exactly this and who will not be surprised that it involves a trading platform rather than a casino. Search for "gambling helpline" together with your country's name. Some examples of the kind of organisation to look for:

  • In the United States, the National Council on Problem Gambling runs a national helpline and lists state programmes.
  • In the United Kingdom, GamCare runs the National Gambling Helpline, and NHS gambling clinics exist in several regions.
  • In Australia, Gambling Help Online provides a national service, and each state has its own.
  • In Canada, each province has a problem gambling helpline.
  • Gamblers Anonymous has meetings in many countries, in person and online.

Elsewhere, a national health service, a general mental health line, or a doctor can point you to the right place. If the trading has involved debt, a debt advice charity is a second call worth making; they exist in most countries and they are free.

Two things to know before you call. First, you do not need to be certain it is a problem to call; the people on the line will help you work that out. Second, the same self-exclusion tools that exist for casinos increasingly exist for brokers: many will close or freeze an account at your request and refuse to reopen it for a set period, and it is reasonable to ask.

If you are reading this and thinking about harming yourself, please stop reading and contact your country's emergency number or crisis line now. Trading losses are recoverable. You are not replaceable.

This course has been about building a process that holds when your mind works against you. The same process works for deciding whether to keep doing this at all, and that decision, made honestly from the evidence, is the most important trade you will ever grade.

Try it: Answer, in writing, the three evidence questions: Is my A-trade expectancy positive after costs over several blocks? Is my D/F count falling? Is my life outside trading intact? Then read the gambling signs list and count honestly. If the count is three or more, find your country's helpline today and write the number in the front of your journal, whether or not you call it yet.

Recap

  • Most active retail traders lose money over time; the honest question is whether your own evidence supports continuing.
  • Evidence it is working: positive A-trade expectancy after costs, high and stable A percentage, falling D/F count, streaks survived without breaks, an intact life.
  • Evidence it is not: zero or negative A-trade expectancy despite fixes, rules that keep breaking despite enforcement, or trading that costs sleep, relationships, health or needed money. Sunk cost is not an argument for continuing.
  • Stopping well means closing accounts, writing a process review, keeping the transferable skills, and saying so plainly. Stopping is a legitimate outcome.
  • If trading shows the signs of a gambling problem (needed money, borrowing, hiding, failed attempts to stop, chasing, escaping moods), contact your country's gambling helpline; it is free, confidential, and built for this.

See it drawn

Original diagrams for the ideas on this page. Illustrative, not real market data.

The spread of outcomes behind an expectancyA histogram of forty trades: a tall block of small losses on the left, a low spread of larger wins on the right, and a line marking the average outcome.NUMBER OF TRADES051024 LOSSES, AVG −$20016 WINS, AVG +$600EXPECTANCY +$120−$400−$200$0+$200+$400+$600+$800PROFIT OR LOSS PER TRADEexpectancy = (40% × $600) − (60% × $200) = +$120 per trade
Expectancy: the average trade. Forty trades sorted by outcome: 24 small losses and 16 larger wins. Weighting each side by how often it happens gives the average result per trade, marked here by the dashed line at +$120.
Payoff of a long call at expiryA flat loss equal to the premium below the strike, turning upward at 45 degrees above it.Profit / loss per share08595115125Strike 105Max loss 3 — the premium paidBreakeven 108Profit keeps growingUnderlying price at expiry
Buying a call: payoff at expiry. A 105-strike call bought for 3 loses that whole 3 if the price finishes at or below 105, breaks even at 108, then gains a dollar for every dollar higher. The loss is capped at the premium; the upside is not capped.

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